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Yeah, I wonder who else we might have out here listening would like to join us in this roundtable. Yeah, like I said, I was never really a contester. It was never really a DX or although it was fun sometimes to work some distance stations. I worked some stations in Europe. This is when I was in Virginia in the late 70s, early 80s. And I set up a full wavelength loop on 20 meters and worked all over the place with that. It was surprisingly good antennas for just a single element, liar antenna, full wavelength. And it did have some directionality that I could tell, you know, the way I had to set up. I could work Europe and into like Southern Africa on two days.