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Good morning Teresa, Dana and everybody on the net. This is Dean KG7 ODB. So anyway, earlier Steve and Seven Going Without Gas was talking about digitizing tapes. And if I understood it correctly, he's got some of these little mini DV digital video cassettes. And one of the problems with these things is so people will go out and they'll try to find like a good deal on an old camera that they can use to digitize these tapes. But the problem is most of these cameras, they've got two ways to get the video out of there. There's the firewire port, which to most people looks a lot like a