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Bill W7JSM, hi John. Well hello Jack, good to hear you tonight. Yeah I would have volunteered but I'm still recovering. I've been wanting to get this scanned out for a month and a half now so I finally got it and everything went okay, it wasn't too bad. I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about having needles stuck in my knee but I didn't really feel it once they numbed everything so this little pressure was about it but now with all the numbness is worn off. My knee is about three times this normal size compared to my right knee so I've been keeping it either a free sleeve on it or ice pack on it and it is pretty sore now with all the numbness is worn off but I'm sure it will go down by.