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over here trying to put more wood and that hasn't much luck anyway yeah that's really cool I spent a little bit of time trying to work it during the contest even when I turned my antenna that way you know Camino Island I'm at 200 feet above sea level and when I turn the antenna north west it rises up to about 500 feet and so I'm pretty well blocked to him unfortunately and I tried Mount Baker in a couple of other places you know point the antenna that way and haven't had much luck so in fact I've got a hill in my way the watch Mount Baker for me on the island there not by much