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that people know what's available. And Dean wasn't thinking of his name, that he was in the hall-mesh, that he used to make his own antennas there. KB9 UCF. And I think he used to say he'd pointed Baker to get into the repeaters. Yeah, you're talking Jeff. And yeah, really, well, he still checks into the simplex meds. And yeah, he had that, well, is it a four-element, I think, or whatever it was? And yeah, when he would scatter off the cascade, they could hear him really good at my house. Yeah, but he said, yeah, he had to point north or something, get a thing that would go back down south. And Randy, maybe they have a, maybe they have the estate, there's a non- commuter radio that doesn't have heat problems over. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.