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compared to ground planes. So they're all three different things. Yeah, if I had to count employees on my car, because that's, that's, it wasn't the full size radios and all that. And it's trying to get the efficiency of the vertical antenna up. So that so that you can get on the band and call CQ and have people answer you, you know, you, um, so you just had a curiosity. So you deploy radios from your car. Can you use your car itself as a ground plane? No, no, I tried that. I was talking to some friends on a hundred and sixty meters. And I took two radios and, uh, and I used an alligator clip to, uh, the clip into my ground system and I ran the radios out and it's true, the whole thing. So it had to be tuned to what I had.

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