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My yeah, this is a ham ticket. This stuff might should have taken serious a long time ago. I've been on this boat for a while. This has kind of been a very big stretch to leave a good to get out and have a conversation with somebody, that's for sure. Roger, you also have this link on my iPhone that goes Echo link. I play with that sometimes. Yeah, I hear people talking about that. Is that pretty much ham radio over the cell coverage or how does that work exactly? Well, the thing I understand about it goes through repeaters, but it is ham radio.