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He was a conservative. He's the one that almost one candidate, he was going to win that election. And then President Trump went and told Canadians to be better off with Mark. Because he didn't want, I don't understand why he didn't want him to win. It's almost like Trump didn't want what, I mean, I don't want to talk about it, you know. There's a lot going on there. But it's just like Trump probably felt better with Mark as running Canada. So he could manipulate him. I think that's probably what, I don't want to say the word manipulate, but I think that's what it's all about.

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