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your amateur radio operator before you can download it. So you just create an account. There's no cost to download it and then install it on your Android phone or on Windows. And yeah it's not in Google Play Store yet it's just coming out of beta right now but I got to tell you it's a great app. It overcomes a lot of the shortcomings that I saw with DV Switch and I'm using it flawlessly to connect to both our all-star node and also I'm using it for our C4FM, the YSF repeater as well and just works works well and quite happy with it quite a quite a change from DV Switch. I've enjoyed DV Switch for a number of years but I've also had Mortal Kombat with it a few times. Give it a try Dan, it's free.