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is you're thinking of 60 meters, the 5, roughly 5 megahertz band, that's 60 meters. 30 meters is a normal low band, except for one thing. It's CW and data only. But typically, hopefully everyone follows the published Consider a Operator's Guide. So you know where the digital guys are going to go? You know where the CW guys are going to go? You know, we just follow the Consider an Operator's Guide and try and not step on each other's fun stuff. But the only real enforced channelization because it's shared with government services is 60 meters. And it's way too much trouble for me to even bother with, so I have no experience.