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but the phone patches, which is kind of an old thing. You know, a phone patch, you know, basically to avoid charges, you know, you need to call somebody back east, you know, basically, you know, find another ham that's near the area and they have a phone patch and they tie it into the phone line and you avoid the toll calls that way and then talk about backup privacy. Yeah, WB-1G didn't get that memo. I think he was trying to use the current day, a repeater phone patch, while he was out on one of the hands in the hills events and he was trying to reach his wife. Else was, I think, interrupting the attempts to patch through. I think he still thought it was just technical difficulties rather than everybody messing with them. Yeah, I remember that I was out with him on the handle of the hills and now he was trying to, you know, call back to his wife. I think he was probably like,