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I had thought that if they were doing that, there should be people that can do what's also known as the X-Y-L format for passing your ham test. What that means, and I'm sure you guys know, but what that means is, while women typically aren't the most interested in ham radio unless they all live in Puget Sound. So, you usually don't get women committing to the hobby because they've all been recruited in Puget Sound, right? Because you know Puget Sound got ladies galore. If you hear their nets, they got thousands of ladies and they're just not, and they're not all guests ladies, right? And I'm not downing on anyone here. It's just that you notice an obvious switch and an obvious difference. So I would say those ladies didn't take