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I didn't come over a bunch of times, try it a couple of times to contact it, but it was just too busy. And I did way back in the day, Nick, contact you to MIR. So that's not exactly satellite ham radio as you think about it, but I kind of danced around the edges of it. But never really got into it, Roger, back to you. Well, like so many things in ham radio, it seems, you can do it real simple, or you can do it real complicated and expensive. I was just looking at that Yeshu rotator, that antenna rotor, that does elevation up and down as well as azimuth left and right. And that sucker is going for about $850 these days. That's the bus you got your antennas and so forth. The radio I'm using now is a TS-25.