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I've also used DStar quite a bit prior to getting on DMR, but it's probably been a year or two maybe since I've been on DStar. But the plug-in cards make it easier to get over the computer. I do have other radios, but I found it so much easier. But I'm usually not around a repeater. And if I am, I think we move around a lot, so most of them have to be reprogrammed for wherever you are if you're going to be using a repeater. It just takes a lot of time. It's already automatic. I use the little digital cards. So that's all I need. All right. What about WD4SR-Steven? What do you use? K4-HM? K4-HM, WD4-SRC, Operator Steve, Whitley County, Kentucky. I'm a new operator. I just took my test.