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as long as you guys. And yeah, I kind of wish when my dad was alive, I would have came around and talked to these guys more on D-Drop-In. I know, like you said, it's been around forever, but I just, I don't know. I guess things with me back then were different than they are now, you know. D-Drop-In came on the air back in 2008. We're looking at 20 years, the year after next. So we've been around as long as any conference server on EchoLink. Back when, in 2008, there were no conference servers. We were one of the first. Ever get added, the category when you're searching stands conferences didn't even exist back then. And now it does, and now there's like thousands of them, but most of them don't last. They really don't. I've seen so many come and go over the years, and most of them don't last.