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I'm the only answer is, well, most of the insecticides work pretty good on them. I think the bug bomb works the best. It touched on off about a month ago and I only seen one or two cents and they didn't look too healthy. Yeah, for sure. We were using a combination of four-axis and sugar, I think. And then we would break it up and they would take it back to their nest and feed it to the... and it would wipe the nest out. And that worked really good. That was probably the best solution that we found insecticide work too, for sure. But that's kind of how we stopped them. Yeah, there's a pain in the back of the river. I've had to bend around a little bit.