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been doing this for 30 years, which I believe it. And I'd like to touch base with you, Tom, and find out what's your interest in background in astronomy, whether you're starting out, or you've been doing it for decades like I have. Please share with us what your experience is. KJ5, K-E-I, go ahead. Well, it's kind of interesting. I was actually logging in on EchoLink. I was hoping to talk to my son, who's out in the Wyoming area doing some camping. And we had looked up some different repeaters. And we had said on this time to try to contact. And I kind of stumbled into your net. And it sounds interesting. I've done nighttime photography. We have a telescope, but most of the stuff that we look at is through binoculars.