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devastating. You see the videos, it's hard to comprehend, but it is a reality. So, you know, just all our wishes, best wishes, go out to everybody affected and everybody in the path of all that fire. Oh man. Hey, so what is Tom Douglas doing? Do you know, seems like you know a little bit about him? I've seen him in person before, a couple of his different restaurants that he had back in the day, but is he still a going concern? I know he has some books out there, but are any of his restaurants do around? I don't know. Back to you, Wayne. Yeah, Jack Hinn, 7-D-A-K here. Yeah, for sure. COVID really hit him hard and he closed a number of his restaurants and shopped out of a, he's got a warehouse there and Ballard that they kind of operate out of and then kind of he built things after COVID and if you want to watch a very interesting program on YouTube, it's the Hudson.

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