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out there but I have caught you on the air a couple of times using the POC radio and it looked like it was breaking up quite a bit but I mean you're out there and on the west coast you know self-services a lot worse out there than it is on the east coast but I just kind of curious what you were getting how it was affecting you with that POC radio or you were getting a good solid connection most of the time or not and the second question Bill would be I know that they have a section for ham radio and it was supposed to be like 35 or so stations on there or 35 rooms in there how many of them are filled and are they filled with something good I mean yeah I know it did operate ends on here but what other radio stations have wanted to join this group and are on the air and you can get to them through the POC radio that's my two questions