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great oh man this is so cool and what it happened was he had sold the van to a couple and they were gonna they would drove it all the way to the tip of the North America or South America excuse me South America and all the way back and that's what they were gonna do with it. So that van had gone all the way down there came back and somehow Rogers had bought the van you know I don't know how many years after that I remember and it was it was Jim's fan and boy I tell you feel some great memories of that van we have to me know man driving with him and going camping and you talk about life and you really despise the extent and you know it's just great listening to you just enjoy it immensely. Anyway here at the Bay Area it was sunny out today and about 80 degrees and nice day out and the squirrels had great time with the peanut.