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This is kind of what you're asking I think a little bit off the subject but I didn't even know what slide band was at that time and I'd be hearing that and it didn't have a BFO or anything that I could listen to it you know clearly and I used to wonder what the heck is that and where is it coming from? But anytime that I hear someone say like oh you can't do that and that can't be done or that you know that you shouldn't think like it's unreasonable for you to think like that that can be done. I just imagine like if you would tell you know like like someone that was from the 1800s