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BCD BCD go ahead Thanks, Lee say I just wanted to put out that a couple weeks ago I had the opportunity to spend the entire week at the Nebraska Star Party out in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska outside Valentine, Nebraska for a week of astronomy and during that time frame me and my brother John KF-0 PGK out of Omaha bounced a couple of signals off the International Space Station using just our hand-helds and we on the fly real quick put together a tape measure antenna from stuff we got at the hardware store and made some Q-Sos from Nebraska as far away as California, the dry cities here in Washington I think even in our area and I think we heard a