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happens to me in the morning like if I get up and go to the bathroom or something then I say that's too early to get up and I'll put something on YouTube or something and fall back asleep it seems like that's when that happens. That's my answer back to you Kevin. And I suspect that with some ham radio operators that is a good answer because one thing being totally blind I'm totally blind for those I don't know right I explain it on a need to know basis I'm not hiding it right but I just wouldn't when I feel people that there's a point for it I'll say so right I don't just say it as a entrance card or anything like that right it's just a characteristic of me in which what happens there then is audio for me.