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Well, it certainly hits the spot the Tim Hortons coffee. That's for sure whenever I have it Yeah, one is usually good enough the way I mix it up I mean I put enough in there for three cups, and then it's like a syrupy Kind of raunchy almost like a rough cut and then I barely get that down With a biscuit or something like that like coffee food, and then I'm usually yeah I'm usually okay for a good crap part of the day I don't need another one