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And all that, you know, but he absolutely hated the bug world. You know, didn't like spiders, caterpillars, ants, or even butterflies. And when you find him, he'd run away screaming like a little girl, and that's the beginning of the story of how he dealt with his problem, his phobia of insects. So, it all came from that, just meeting that guy and seeing these insects. I don't know why I told you that. It was just on my mind.