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And that's when I really learned more than the theory that the actual practice of, and I guess, you know, I guess I really all-star an echolink there, you know, analog, they just, you know, get timbered to IP that before going back to analog. Anyway, hey, thanks so much for checking in with us this evening, Donald, and we had an IO from Cody. And let's go talk to Dean, KG7ODB. How you doing, Dean? Good evening, Rich, and everyone on the net. It's really good to hear you. I hope this is the first of four times. Anyway, I'm coming home from a PODA activation. So let me just give you the quick story. Yesterday, I did a PODA activation, or at least attempted one, at Flaming Geyser State Park.