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you to start talking. I tell you a couple weeks ago it would be light now. It's just getting light now. It's about 20 after 5 a.m. I guess here. Let's see. Linda Lew and I have been probably for years and years. I don't know. A couple of festivals that we go to. Mount Angel Oregon which is about 20 miles east of Salem. October 5th I don't know why they call it October 5th because it's in about the first week in September but we go out there and have a we're not beer drinkers or they are beer festival things there but we just go and look at the other part about a hundred vendors. We just look at our