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that we had, you know, when all the activity on the bands were like phone and CW and stuff was out. FT-8 and FT-4, the digital was still going strong there, Mickey. And they've actually got a new mode out now called FT-2. 11 seconds, Mickey, is the maximum time that it takes to do FT-2. It is super fast. I mean, it is absolutely super fast. I've actually done it, but it's just too many key ups, you know. You've got like 3, 6, 9, and you know, might say like 12 seconds, you know. So about 4 seconds, interchange, you know.