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date, they'll see be the 8th of August or Mickey. And I do a little bit on the red chat net on Thursdays if you're ever around there Mickey. I usually pick out something and kind of do a little reading here from Native, I've got a Native American herb book that you know that I read a paragraph out of and give you the things what it does and what it's good for and all that stuff. So a lot of times on the red chat I'll do a short one but maybe on the 8th of August I'll check with Mike and then see what they got. Hey that's cool Virgil I get in on the red chat once in a while but I hadn't heard you do the Native American