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As I kept listening and different things, he was saying one time he was talking about getting a cut on his finger and that. Well here it was. He worked in the plants that do all of them. The ketchup and mustard packets and that, you get in the restaurants. That was packaged. He obviously probably got 50 gallon drums or big bags of the product and put it in a machine and it would package it. I remember a guy where I worked at school. He worked down before he got the job up here. He worked at a bakery and a chip company. He said, all they did is when you were doing bread or chips or whatever they were making, just change the bag on the line.