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running coming like Y non-linx is probably be no good for it either. That's always been hit to mess when I've tried to use it in the past. Be free XDB from GW8S ZL. Oh, very good Dave. Yep, the CPS, the programming, the program for programming, the radio is a Windows program. And if I had it, I could obviously get at it. I also, I'm looking for a, I put out a call to some local friends here to borrow one because I have another DMR radio that I kind of bricked by trying to install G-77, open G-77 on it. And it didn't work very well. So I need to restore the old firmware and that too needs Windows.