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1989 I think that was when I came back. Yeah, I do a lot of encouragement I got a lot of guys on 11 meters that were encouraging me to get on you know to get on 10 meters So I already had my hand license But anyway, I started out on 20 and 360 and that's all I ended up joining the Mike and Keith Club was because of Lloyd W87H and why and I used to talk to Eric and Lloyd and And yeah, who else was down there guy got the gold tower from and I will bond and God, I don't know there's probably 25 or 30 other people and then people from The statue on they used to come in on sporadic here Northern California or whatever and Yeah, there's some good some really good times, but And then there was Jan K7YH and Frank a 7 HQG and I can go on and on