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He's got a contest station. I usually get I hear him on during the salmon run and stuff down in these white down down in Pacific County somewhere or something now. You know I need to reconnect with him but I definitely did a field day and some other events with him and he was Harriet's an amazing guy. He was a Vietnam vet. We used to talk about you know his experiences in the Army and just an amazing guy. I was I loved that you know him. There was another 10 meter bunch when when I first came back from the 11 meter band. There was 28 360 and it was right when they gave voice privileges to novices. It's a 19 meter.