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up to you Dean K7CX. Yeah, something called ground temperature. There's another thing that came up in the recent few years for Yagi antennas. It's a way of figuring out how much noise the antenna picks up. Yeah, my experience with the handset, that halfway, here's what I did. I had a 160 meter end set that I built, and my matching section was a piece of 450 ohm ladder line. That if one end of it was open, the other end was shorted. And I just, my coax, and I worked my way up the ladder line until I found 50 ohms. And in this thing, the halfway section was way up the trees and it ran down my drive.