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followed him in his career out there at City Light. I thought well if he could become a lineman I can to. So, when took to the city and they hired me and after me in their six months they realized that I wasn't going to be a lineman and down at the union all I went and went out on construction. So, that's my story with the IBEW and I tell you that's a wonderful logo. I mean they just don't forget their members. Back to you Wayne. KG7WI and 7AK here absolutely 100% I was never part of the union I wasn't part of IBEW but I pretty much spent most of my career out in the field and working with and supporting as best I could.