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end of the sunspot cycle and the answer was focus on the low band you know 40, 80, maybe 160 and I think it's an interesting topic of discussion about what should you be putting up like I don't have a 160 antenna I used to have a decade ago a 80 meter full wave loop that with ladder line that I said to a manual tuner and man I made a bunch of ones like during the 160 contest I made a ton of 160 contacts on that I don't think I have anything right now I can tune up on that but I kind of want to put something up and see what will happen so you know I've got the I think I'd call but the low band the action books from you know 20 years ago whenever it was and I keep thinking you know I've got property I should I should figure out a way to put up like a 160 antennas yeah yeah I mean