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And also was a good friend of Roger Zacharias out here in the North Kid's Secretary. Anyway, small world, speaking of small world, I just got a letter from the nephew of mine that I haven't talked to since he was probably six years old. And he's retired from the airlines and doesn't look too far away from a gig harbor. Nice, nice warm letter from him. I've invited him to come visit me and we'll sit down and compare some notes from over the years. He was, he got divorced and remarried and his wife was for the same company that my wife