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it starts to get soft at around 350 and starts to actually melt about 500 most soldering guns, soldering irons I should say, run about 700 degrees Fahrenheit and W7G. Okay well thanks for that and yeah it would be an interesting experiment although it was painstaking enough to I took that antenna down after I proved that it was at least possible to work and it sort of fell apart broke as I was taking it down. I'm not going to try to put one up again to do that experiment anytime soon but it would be a kind of a fun experiment see how much power you can put into it and see if you can get it to have anything I can put in more than a hundred watts but it was a it was a fun little science experiment there. Thanks Gregor and Randy Dancer your question. Yeah I didn't