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and you get a signal of zero, that's at the noise level. And then when you get a signal of minus 16, that's 16 dB below the noise. So you're actually picking out signals that you can't almost, almost, audibly can't hear. And that's why it's so popular, because you can have a higher noise level at your location and stuff like that and still be able to work stuff on the van. But, you know, and if you're getting a plus 25, you're probably looking at an F2 or 3 on the, well, I don't know, it's probably more like about F9 on the signal meter. So you can work those guys, if you get big signal reports like that, you can work those guys on phone. But that's the, that's the draw of FTA.
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