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that yeah and if you got the antenna handbook there that should give them some ideas as well 1828. Alright and remember I want folks to step into the hobby they want to get what they're working good let's take a row of toning. Yeah thank you and send me RWL be in control tonight late normal I missed a couple weeks left because of town but I run here on mine I have a vertical it's a high gain super 500 penetrator it's not very high but then I have three G5 RVs I have one north south one east west one northwest the southwest and I run 375 to 400 watts so I'll be on there tonight hopefully to pick up the fly-watt that unit there and 70 RW neck and control. Alright Phil go ahead. Oh I just gonna comment I'm usually running uh what someone call low power 100 watts and I do find locally sometimes it's challenging with the vertical and