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mountain you just got to make sure you keep getting the thumbs up from your parents so you don't upset them and instead of taking a step forward you take two steps back with the hobby. You got any trees on the property because you can always put it you get a mount for the antenna and put it in a tree so it kind of can feel so they don't really say much about it. Well yeah I do have some trees but I think I'm not sure if this is relevant or not but I hope that the absorbent will harm the signal to my teeth. So I'll tell you this right now I have my 10 meter antenna with the mast on a tree and it does pretty well so it's just I'm in the same situation you are in.