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And it was nice. They had the, what's that stuff in the, I forget what it's called, it's the stuff they got in the trees that got mopped, mopped, the mopped, that stuff hanging off the trees. It was really neat that, yeah, if you come up here, you, you, you, and matter of fact, you must have been here, you're a talk-grabbing, haven't you, been all over, upper state, you're, while you were working, so you must have seen the Great Lakes. No, actually I did not, not from New York, and I'll tell you why, because during that time, I would be running from out of St. Louis, and I'd run across and head up to the Cleveland area, and then run over to highway, I think it was two, then I'd get on highway 17, and I'd run straight through the middle of New York into Binghamton, and then from there, I would head north, Scott went highway that is a,