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Either one, I have all my information on the setup like the my node number and everything, but I haven't got the Raspberry Pi or stuff like that or like you said one with the radios. Have you seen one of those that the M1KE, do you got one of those or have you looked at those? No, I haven't tried the M1KE myself. I'd say look into it online. It's supposed to be like an all in one unit. I think you can like talk right into it. I don't know. There's a couple of different devices I think that he has going on. But typically if you're just looking to talk with your radio like a VHF or a UHF radio like a HD or something into an all star node, you say you got your node number and your node password already.