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facility, you know, it's out in the woods. They've got cabins and big covered picnic area with a, actually have a hand radio tower with a tri-bander on it. Pretty cool. Anyway, all over the property they had hidden five, I think, hidden transmitters that were running, they were transmitting both on VHF and also on 30 meter HF. And one of the guys I met up there, Keith, who's calling him, I have right in front of me, but he was a great guy to talk to. He kind of took me under his wing and showed me what it was all about. And he had a Elecraft KX2 that he was using to look for the 30 meter transmitting devices. And he just had this loop antenna that he had made. After the event I emailed him and asked him, you know, what the specs were for it. He's like, there were no specs. He just made this loop, which I don't think was