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with instrument and I had braces at the time. So about the only thing I could do was just squeak and squawk and the thing. I really couldn't get much of a donut out of it. So yeah, unfortunately I'm just not that great to play musical instrument. You said here? No. Okay, on the other hand, my brother's quite good. It really is. Years ago, we used to play a keyboard. And I forget what he had. It wasn't a Roland. It might have been Yamaha. I'm really not sure. I'll have to ask him next time I talk to him. It's been a while. He plays guitar not professionally, but more as a hobbyist sort of thing. His work keeps him pretty busy and it's hard to maintain kind of a work-life balance and be able to find the time to play guitar. But yeah, he does it on the side as a hobby.