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So, and it's up to the next for over 30 years. What was the trail in the Navy? I was a Missonist man. I worked in the main Missonory room. It's a boiler and it's managing being in the same space. For three years, and then my last year in I managed to get to A Division, worked on air-conditioner refrigeration. I was qualified AC and R Petty Officer of the Watch. And even though my training was on the job and not having A-School for the actual training, folks from the school were becoming in and was like, well, you remember what you learned in school, how it works.

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