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chance next next year go to salmon con hang out with the qrp folks and and built some antennas and have some fun it was really great with that send it back to net 87 X IMOLT. Yeah Mike that sounds really good and I've actually talked to those guys not this weekend but last year there was a bunch of guys on two meters they were running just a few watts and stuff and was able to make contact with them and yeah that valley camp campground down there I've heard really really it's really a cool spot and stuff and yeah they've changed the name of it I used to be called something else but I don't remember the the exact name but salmon con is the new and it's really fun if you're if you really like it we're into qrp and stuff and they'll from what I understand they'll help you give more efficient antennas and