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and willing to help you until they find out it's in the attic and then hey that's not a supportive configuration so I yanked it out and sent it back and got my money back and on another note I have gone to the HOA with a nice pamphlet of information and requesting to put a 30 foot tower against the side of my house. I don't know if that's going to work but Jack I've been through all the HOA rules and they don't talk about a single thing for hand radio only satellite dishes for kiwi so I might be in a good position I don't know other than that things have been pretty quiet I hope everyone's doing well and I'll send it back to you Jack thanks for working in that November 7 whiskey and the atango back to neck control. Alright I heard that you mentioned on one of the nets that you were returning to the mazone baby loop that's amazing you get your money back for them must have