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pilot and he remembered. He told me a story, I'll just class a story one time that he went out to Minden and he said he was in a tandem and he says the tow plane takes you into the rotor so the rotor is I believe it's it's it goes the bottom part goes up close to the mountains and then you know rotates you know if you're looking you know if you're looking in one direction it kind of rotates into the bottom the bottom rotates into the into the into the ridge or the mountains so what you do is you fly your you take a tow plane you fly into the bottom of it onto the windward side of the rotor and it'll take you up to towards the top and then once you get up above there you'll spit you out and then you fly downwind the way until you hit the uprising air and he said out of Minden he was close to 2000 feet when they finally let loose well the tow plane lets you loose but they flew

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