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You've got to find a satellite and a path that both stations are in the footprint of at the same time. When is the band open to that station via satellite? And I was wondering if either, I guess at this point, if either application can make that prediction. There are apps out there. I haven't found one that I like. Basically, if I want to talk to Perth, Australia via satellite, well, I've got to wait for Oscar 40 to wake back up again and be over the ocean. I've actually contacted them via Oscar 40. This is many years ago. But that was just a chance that, hey, the satellite's over the mid-Pacific and this is like three degrees up on my end and six degrees up on their end or so. And that we have a chat between here and Australia. But if you want to go to the website, you can go to the website.

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